Comments on: Arms vs Fury and Arms Power Auras Export

By: Multikill

Multikill — Mon, 28 Sep 2009 11:31:53 +0000

First of all the one who made this topic seems to be getting the picture. Fury warriors will surpass arms warriors when Ulduar geared or better.

I am very experienced fury warrior myself and fury warrior IS NOT hit reliable. Fury warriors should only get hitrating if they are below 190 hitrating. when they are above that hitrating they are yellow hitcapped and since HS actually works as your autoattack hitrating stack very bad and dont give much dps gain. This is why fury warriors actually is one of the melee classes who needs hitrating the least after hitting yellow hitcap. Strength>ArP>Crit>Expertice>Haste and hitrating

This is atleast in my experience the way prio stats

By: Nemesis

Nemesis — Wed, 29 Jul 2009 17:50:14 +0000

I played an arms warrior to 70 and became a major pvper, I soon got bored though especially when blizzard introduced the overpowered death knight that starts at an unfair advantage. Basically I though it would be cool to still pvp after they came but as I went into the battleground I got death gripped and I was like wtf. It soon became clear to me that warriors were no longer good as they once were for pvp. i decided to try leveling in fury to 80 in my hardcore pvp set. I had two merciless gladiator axes dual wielded. I could solo 80 elites at 80 with my level 70 pvp set. I soon replaced that set with a level 80 heroic set and could not solo 80 elites anymore, its kind of frustrating 80 gear does not hold up as well. I soon got frustrated and made a pure pve spec (Fury). I soon found out raiding 10 man naxx and 25 was fun until I got to Ulduar which forced me to join an ulduar raiding guild. I like fury dps the best and smoke any arms warrior in dps now. I am dual speced to tank and deal great damage. I also totally agree with what you say that leveling in arms is better if you don’t got the gear. Fury is really hit rating based so if your going to do fury get AP and hit.

By: Yggdrasil

Yggdrasil — Wed, 15 Jul 2009 16:27:20 +0000

@ Dorkseid- Only 2 classes have to worry all that much over weapon swing speed, Rogues and Shamans. For anyone else, its pretty much Weapon DPS>anything else when selecting which to equip in mainhand.

@ PTD- I feel stupid for not being 100% certain on this, but I thought DPS Ferals brought the same effect…

By: PTD

PTD — Thu, 25 Jun 2009 14:15:11 +0000

Well, I have one of those situations where there is ALWAYS an arms warrior in the raid. Isn’t there another class that provides that same or a similar buff to bleeds?

By: Tigerfeet

Tigerfeet — Thu, 25 Jun 2009 14:01:54 +0000

You’re forgetting your ‘roots’ PTD! Druids LOVE an arms warrior, cats specifically. Arms applies Trauma, and if we don’t have to mangle that’s an extra 2-300 dps for us! Our arms warrior just switched to a different shift at work and isn’t raiding right now, and it makes me very, VERY sad
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By: Tasa

Tasa — Fri, 12 Jun 2009 22:10:42 +0000

I love the warrior trees right about now, I’d like to think they are the closest to being balanced than the have ever been. And what is it with warriors playing druids? lol I know so many warriors that do lol

By: PTD

PTD — Fri, 12 Jun 2009 01:22:22 +0000

Kriyet and Raine–

There is no doubt skill plays a part. I still believe there are empirical differences irrespective of skill in the specs. Ultimately, they are VERY close, and I will still normally take skill over spec.

Dorkseid–

The higher damage weapon should always be in your main hand first. Just try it and you will see a big difference. I wouldn’t worry so much about speed, with 2 handers they’re ALL pretty slow. I pretty much look at just DPS and stats.

By: Dorkseid

Dorkseid — Thu, 11 Jun 2009 21:53:22 +0000

Okay…regarding your theory on having a good OH weapon, this might be a noobish question but I gotta ask:
Everything I’ve read about TG says that I should have a slower weap as OH. So I’ve been running around with Titansteel Destroyer as MH and Ironsoul in OH thinking that I’m following the “slow OH theory” when another Warrior sends me a whisper saying that I should switch my weaps. I asked why and explained that I’d read about the “slow OH” and he explained that Fury warrs should ALWAYS have the weap with higher dmg output in the MH.

So…my question is, should I rock Ironsoul as MH and Titansteel Destroyer in OH like I was advised, or should it be the other way around? Thanks

By: Raine

Raine — Thu, 11 Jun 2009 21:43:44 +0000

I'd have to agree with Kriyet on this one. Pre 3.1 fury may have been the better spec overall as far as dps was concerned for most players. I would argue that it is the person sitting behind the monitor that can really make a class/spec shine. If a players heart wasn't in to what he was doing at the time he may not perform to the same degree of an comparably geared player of the same class; even if the talent spec was the same. Raine’s last blog post..How To: General Vezax (10)

By: Kriyet

Kriyet — Wed, 10 Jun 2009 14:29:11 +0000

PTD,

I’ve never played a warrior, so chiming in on this topic for me is based on the healer’s view from behind. All I know is, our raiding Arms warrior is kick-ass, and _always_ tops the DPS charts. We miss him when he’s not on raid night.

When I first joined the guild, I’d never run with DPS warriors, only tanks. Took me just a few heroic runs to learn “blade-storming” = I’m about to crank it, HoT me now or rez me later!

I think it’s the same as any question about spec – a brilliant player makes any spec shine, and a mediocre player isn’t saved by the ‘best’ spec. He plays the spec he loves, and it means he excels.