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	<title>Comments on: Casual Guilds and 25-Man Raiding</title>
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		<title>By: Airadin</title>
		<link>http://parttimedruid.com/2008/07/29/casual-guilds-and-25-man-raiding/comment-page-1/#comment-437</link>
		<dc:creator>Airadin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 11:58:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok, a littel history. The alliance that PTD is talking about is affectionally called the SLACK alliance. It originates back to the days prior to BC when raiding was a 40 man activity. In those days it was primarily a 4 guild alliance to pursue content that we could not setup and do inhouse. most of those guilds were capable of fielding a 20 man  with planning but never could float 40 even if they had the sheer numbers. During those times we ventured into and cleared MC, Killed the first boss in BWL and saw some of AQ40 (though never dropepd a boss). We were a bit behind the curve in getting into 40 man content but we got there and had a good old time. those raids were often like mobile block parties as we cut up in teamspeak a bit while we moved through the instance.

SLACK effectively quieted down in the months leading up to BC&#039;s release and then stayed pretyt dormant for probavbly the first year after. Once the member guilds achieed a level and gearing that was heading them into Kara the alliance started to percolate again. While we never really had alot of Kara raids, we did have some that were slotted into some odd timeslots liek midnight Friday and Sat or early saturday mornings. The focus of the alliance was shifting to the 25 mans and setting up new leaders and rules as some of the original leaders have moved on or no longer willing to lead. the early 25 mans were a struggle to field, but we scraped folks together and fielded our first Gruul run and promptly wiped all over that initial pull of HKM (I hate that warlock) While the three largest guilds all have numbers to be able to field a 25 man successfully, we all never seem to be able to pull it off the same way we didn&#039;t have issues with 20 mans.. Seems strange but that&#039;s the way its gone. 

Anyway, to the question of forming or adding guilds, we recently just added two into SLACK. The leadership looked at the forum boards but the best resource actualyl turned out to be hanging arround at the summoning stone and looking for who is trying to get into pickups and talknig to folks there to get a sense who is at taht stage ready to make the leap  to 25 mans. We then have chats withguild leaders while looking at profiles of their members and their slot on wowjutsu and finally make a decision if we want to approach them about membership. It seems like a bit of work and it is, but the key here is getting guilds together that share ideals for raiding. If you add someone who doesn&#039;t then the alliance will suffer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok, a littel history. The alliance that PTD is talking about is affectionally called the SLACK alliance. It originates back to the days prior to BC when raiding was a 40 man activity. In those days it was primarily a 4 guild alliance to pursue content that we could not setup and do inhouse. most of those guilds were capable of fielding a 20 man  with planning but never could float 40 even if they had the sheer numbers. During those times we ventured into and cleared MC, Killed the first boss in BWL and saw some of AQ40 (though never dropepd a boss). We were a bit behind the curve in getting into 40 man content but we got there and had a good old time. those raids were often like mobile block parties as we cut up in teamspeak a bit while we moved through the instance.</p>
<p>SLACK effectively quieted down in the months leading up to BC&#8217;s release and then stayed pretyt dormant for probavbly the first year after. Once the member guilds achieed a level and gearing that was heading them into Kara the alliance started to percolate again. While we never really had alot of Kara raids, we did have some that were slotted into some odd timeslots liek midnight Friday and Sat or early saturday mornings. The focus of the alliance was shifting to the 25 mans and setting up new leaders and rules as some of the original leaders have moved on or no longer willing to lead. the early 25 mans were a struggle to field, but we scraped folks together and fielded our first Gruul run and promptly wiped all over that initial pull of HKM (I hate that warlock) While the three largest guilds all have numbers to be able to field a 25 man successfully, we all never seem to be able to pull it off the same way we didn&#8217;t have issues with 20 mans.. Seems strange but that&#8217;s the way its gone. </p>
<p>Anyway, to the question of forming or adding guilds, we recently just added two into SLACK. The leadership looked at the forum boards but the best resource actualyl turned out to be hanging arround at the summoning stone and looking for who is trying to get into pickups and talknig to folks there to get a sense who is at taht stage ready to make the leap  to 25 mans. We then have chats withguild leaders while looking at profiles of their members and their slot on wowjutsu and finally make a decision if we want to approach them about membership. It seems like a bit of work and it is, but the key here is getting guilds together that share ideals for raiding. If you add someone who doesn&#8217;t then the alliance will suffer.</p>
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		<title>By: PTD</title>
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		<dc:creator>PTD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 01:19:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Zupa--

Not that I know of, but you could try to use your realm forums on the official site.  Honestly, I don&#039;t even know how ours started in the first place.  I think we may have used the forums.

Also, take note of good players that you group up with from other guilds, and don&#039;t be afraid to ask questions.</description>
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<p>Not that I know of, but you could try to use your realm forums on the official site.  Honestly, I don&#8217;t even know how ours started in the first place.  I think we may have used the forums.</p>
<p>Also, take note of good players that you group up with from other guilds, and don&#8217;t be afraid to ask questions.</p>
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		<title>By: zupa</title>
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		<dc:creator>zupa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 00:47:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>brilliant :)

Is there some kind of website where guilds can find each other to form these kind of alliances?    Sounds like one of the most difficult things would be finding guilds to ally with.

Great stuff regardless :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>brilliant <img src='http://parttimedruid.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Is there some kind of website where guilds can find each other to form these kind of alliances?    Sounds like one of the most difficult things would be finding guilds to ally with.</p>
<p>Great stuff regardless <img src='http://parttimedruid.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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