Comments on: Four Flavors of Guild Drama and How to Combat Them http://parttimedruid.com/2008/06/06/four-flavors-of-guild-drama-and-how-to-combat-them/ Wed, 14 Jul 2010 20:04:53 -0700 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0 By: PTD http://parttimedruid.com/2008/06/06/four-flavors-of-guild-drama-and-how-to-combat-them/comment-page-1/#comment-281 PTD Fri, 13 Jun 2008 19:10:46 +0000 http://parttimedruid.com/?p=79#comment-281 @Valenna That's a great point to make. Stability in the system you choose is almost as important as the system itself. You can't flip flop around all the time. It is very true that Bad Apples can cause real complications depending on their ties within the guild. In my experience, anyone who would "go to the wall" for a bad apple, might just be one themselves, at least a little. @randumb I think there is a real and obvious difference from guildies who need help and those who are always looking for handouts. @Tito If Amy sees this, I see a demotion in your future. ;) @Valenna

That’s a great point to make. Stability in the system you choose is almost as important as the system itself. You can’t flip flop around all the time.

It is very true that Bad Apples can cause real complications depending on their ties within the guild. In my experience, anyone who would “go to the wall” for a bad apple, might just be one themselves, at least a little.

@randumb

I think there is a real and obvious difference from guildies who need help and those who are always looking for handouts.

@Tito

If Amy sees this, I see a demotion in your future. ;)

]]> By: Titopuentes http://parttimedruid.com/2008/06/06/four-flavors-of-guild-drama-and-how-to-combat-them/comment-page-1/#comment-270 Titopuentes Wed, 11 Jun 2008 20:49:55 +0000 http://parttimedruid.com/?p=79#comment-270 I pay certain key members of the guild gold to prevent me from getting gkicked for when I hurl out sexual epithets. Worked like a charm for years now :) I pay certain key members of the guild gold to prevent me from getting gkicked for when I hurl out sexual epithets. Worked like a charm for years now :)

]]> By: randumb http://parttimedruid.com/2008/06/06/four-flavors-of-guild-drama-and-how-to-combat-them/comment-page-1/#comment-261 randumb Sun, 08 Jun 2008 11:32:01 +0000 http://parttimedruid.com/?p=79#comment-261 What exactly is the point of having a guild if you can do everything by yourself? Stated another way, where exactly is the line drawn over a new guild member who asks for help becoming a "Bad Apple"? What exactly is the point of having a guild if you can do everything by yourself?
Stated another way, where exactly is the line drawn over a new guild member who asks for help becoming a “Bad Apple”?

]]> By: Valenna http://parttimedruid.com/2008/06/06/four-flavors-of-guild-drama-and-how-to-combat-them/comment-page-1/#comment-260 Valenna Fri, 06 Jun 2008 21:50:04 +0000 http://parttimedruid.com/?p=79#comment-260 On the Phat Lootz and DKP: Try to change the DKP system you use as infrequently as possible. Making any changes no matter how small creates inconsistencies which someone guaranteed will find unfair and unjust, even if it benefits the guild as a whole. On Bad Apples: Unfortunately, the worst complication you can have in this situation is if Bad Apple is friends with or befriends members of the guild. By doing a simple /gkick, you've potentially created more drama as people think it is unfair that the person is expelled. The solution is just like you mentioned and have a thorough recruitment process, but you still might have someone slip through. If someone does and their presence creates major tension, either an intervention situation or a guild vote for explusion is probably the best way to try to address the situation. Maybe the individual just doesn't understand the guild rules or guild culture. Someone people are willing to change. Those that aren't shouldn't be given second chances. If you warn them that their behavior is unacceptable then there's really no choice except to /gkick. Even their friends will agree. On the Phat Lootz and DKP: Try to change the DKP system you use as infrequently as possible. Making any changes no matter how small creates inconsistencies which someone guaranteed will find unfair and unjust, even if it benefits the guild as a whole.

On Bad Apples: Unfortunately, the worst complication you can have in this situation is if Bad Apple is friends with or befriends members of the guild. By doing a simple /gkick, you’ve potentially created more drama as people think it is unfair that the person is expelled. The solution is just like you mentioned and have a thorough recruitment process, but you still might have someone slip through. If someone does and their presence creates major tension, either an intervention situation or a guild vote for explusion is probably the best way to try to address the situation. Maybe the individual just doesn’t understand the guild rules or guild culture. Someone people are willing to change. Those that aren’t shouldn’t be given second chances. If you warn them that their behavior is unacceptable then there’s really no choice except to /gkick. Even their friends will agree.

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